Graeme is a social systems researcher in New Zealand. When he looks back at his life it sort of makes sense to him, but others find it a strange journey. He has blended his first degree in microbiology with studies in theology, practice as an Anglican priest, training in psychotherapy, and self-directed learning in social systems and complexity. Eventually Graeme grew up to be a social systems researcher for a government research institute in NZ, ESR. Meanwhile, Graeme and his wife, Barbara have developed and managed a commercial walnut orchard and helped establish the walnut industry in NZ. Graeme plays trombone with only modest success. Graeme’s research clients have included NZ Police, the Ministry of Health, and Fire and Emergency NZ. His recent work has focused on research as a service, co-creative research and ways for bio-physical scientists to take account of messy and uncontrollable variables, people. Graeme now works as an independent researcher and consultant.